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		<title>By: First, Nail Down the Mission &#124; The Once and Future Moon</title>
		<link>http://blogs.airspacemag.com/moon/2009/01/25/what-apollo-was-and-wasnt/comment-page-1/#comment-609</link>
		<dc:creator>First, Nail Down the Mission &#124; The Once and Future Moon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 10:56:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the Moon be industrialized?”  This new direction is far removed from the geopolitically driven Apollo template of “flags and footprints.”   The multinational fleet of probes scouting the Moon is testament [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the Moon be industrialized?”  This new direction is far removed from the geopolitically driven Apollo template of “flags and footprints.”   The multinational fleet of probes scouting the Moon is testament [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Fish</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Fish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 06:09:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I recently published a book about the recovery of Apollo 11 called Hornet Plus Three.

One thing it makes clear is the nexus between the hot spot of the Cold War (i.e., Vietnam) and the space race.  Like most Apollo recovery ships, the Hornet had just returned from a combat tour on Yankee Station when it was selected as primary recovery ship of Apollo 11. 

There is no doubt in the mind of anyone with geopolitical knowledge of that era, the space race to the Moon was simply a &quot;technological battlefield&quot; with the Soviets; an effort to avoid a nuclear confrontation stemming from some low-intensity conflict that got out of hand. JFK chose not to risk another &quot;eyeball&quot; confontation with the Soviet Union. Thus, the prioritization of the large percentage of GNP that went into the Moon race and the overt emphasis on the civilian nature of this endeavor.

It seems clear the U.S. would not have &quot;naturally&quot; placed a human on the Moon in the 20th century if not for the all-encompassing confrontation between communism and capitalism.

While it is far more emotionally satisfying to place a human on another planet, America&#039;s predilection for safety, and high-probability of success, raises the cost of further manned solar system exploration to unacceptable levels. Unfortunately, true exploration of anything does not come without sacrifice. 

Without a doubt, in the absence of another major geopolitical challenege like the Soviets in the 1960&#039;s, space probes and robots will rule the next decade or two.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recently published a book about the recovery of Apollo 11 called Hornet Plus Three.</p>
<p>One thing it makes clear is the nexus between the hot spot of the Cold War (i.e., Vietnam) and the space race.  Like most Apollo recovery ships, the Hornet had just returned from a combat tour on Yankee Station when it was selected as primary recovery ship of Apollo 11. </p>
<p>There is no doubt in the mind of anyone with geopolitical knowledge of that era, the space race to the Moon was simply a &#8220;technological battlefield&#8221; with the Soviets; an effort to avoid a nuclear confrontation stemming from some low-intensity conflict that got out of hand. JFK chose not to risk another &#8220;eyeball&#8221; confontation with the Soviet Union. Thus, the prioritization of the large percentage of GNP that went into the Moon race and the overt emphasis on the civilian nature of this endeavor.</p>
<p>It seems clear the U.S. would not have &#8220;naturally&#8221; placed a human on the Moon in the 20th century if not for the all-encompassing confrontation between communism and capitalism.</p>
<p>While it is far more emotionally satisfying to place a human on another planet, America&#8217;s predilection for safety, and high-probability of success, raises the cost of further manned solar system exploration to unacceptable levels. Unfortunately, true exploration of anything does not come without sacrifice. </p>
<p>Without a doubt, in the absence of another major geopolitical challenege like the Soviets in the 1960&#8217;s, space probes and robots will rule the next decade or two.</p>
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		<title>By: Those were the days…. &#124; The Once and Future Moon</title>
		<link>http://blogs.airspacemag.com/moon/2009/01/25/what-apollo-was-and-wasnt/comment-page-1/#comment-470</link>
		<dc:creator>Those were the days…. &#124; The Once and Future Moon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 16:15:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] have argued elsewhere that for many reasons, the Apollo program is not a good template for new space endeavors. Yet the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Human spaceflight – What Value to Science? (Part 1) &#124; The Once and Future Moon</title>
		<link>http://blogs.airspacemag.com/moon/2009/01/25/what-apollo-was-and-wasnt/comment-page-1/#comment-277</link>
		<dc:creator>Human spaceflight – What Value to Science? (Part 1) &#124; The Once and Future Moon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 17:44:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] By going to the Moon, we gained a new perspective on the history of life on Earth and new insight into how the process of evolution actually works.  Not a bad scientific return from a program whose real motivations were geopolitical, not scientific. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] By going to the Moon, we gained a new perspective on the history of life on Earth and new insight into how the process of evolution actually works.  Not a bad scientific return from a program whose real motivations were geopolitical, not scientific. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Murdoc Online &#187; Sunday Space Blogging - 08 Feb 2009</title>
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		<dc:creator>Murdoc Online &#187; Sunday Space Blogging - 08 Feb 2009</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 16:59:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] What Apollo was …. and wasn’t Apollo was not about the Moon, or even about space. It took place in space and ultimately, on the Moon. But Apollo was a battle in the Cold War. John Kennedy did not say, “Go to the Moon and press onwards to the planets.” He challenged America to show the superiority of its economic and political system by landing a man on the Moon and returning him to Earth “before this decade is out.” The key objective was not going to the Moon – it was to beat the Soviets to the Moon. This objective was attained with profound consequences, critical to our Cold War victory to a degree still not fully appreciated. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] What Apollo was …. and wasn’t Apollo was not about the Moon, or even about space. It took place in space and ultimately, on the Moon. But Apollo was a battle in the Cold War. John Kennedy did not say, “Go to the Moon and press onwards to the planets.” He challenged America to show the superiority of its economic and political system by landing a man on the Moon and returning him to Earth “before this decade is out.” The key objective was not going to the Moon – it was to beat the Soviets to the Moon. This objective was attained with profound consequences, critical to our Cold War victory to a degree still not fully appreciated. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 10:12:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Silicon ICs were invented by Robert Noyce at Fairchild Semiconductor in 1958. They were a private invention, using no public R&amp;D money. They were in large scale use by the early 60&#039;s, well before the Apollo program existed. They have as much to do with the space program as velcro.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Silicon ICs were invented by Robert Noyce at Fairchild Semiconductor in 1958. They were a private invention, using no public R&amp;D money. They were in large scale use by the early 60&#8217;s, well before the Apollo program existed. They have as much to do with the space program as velcro.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles Boyer</title>
		<link>http://blogs.airspacemag.com/moon/2009/01/25/what-apollo-was-and-wasnt/comment-page-1/#comment-227</link>
		<dc:creator>Charles Boyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 15:45:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dr. Spudis,

Your points are fair, but I will point out in riposte that as someone who held clearance that I have noticed military R&amp;D&#039;s dissemination into the public sector is far slower than the same process from the civilian space program.  Carbon-fiber tech comes to mind, but that may not be the best example.

Indeed, you could argue the integrated circuits point, however, the counter-argument would be the Charles Draper-MIT Apollo Guidance Computer development which used the lion&#039;s share of IC&#039;s, far above and beyond Minuteman.

Back to your central question -- would it have happened sans Apollo?  Certainly.  

But would it have led to the creation of Intel in 1968, which quickly went to work on mid-scale integration and eventually large-scale integration?  Probably not.  IC&#039;s would have been kept black because the Soviets were still using vacuum and relay technology, and indeed, badly trailed the US in computational ability.  That would have been an advantage our military would have been loathe to surrender.

That&#039;s why I posit that Apollo greatly stimulated the PC revolution.  I seriously doubt we would have what we have on our desks, cellphones, televisions and even microwave ovens had that original IC tech been confined to our armed forces.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. Spudis,</p>
<p>Your points are fair, but I will point out in riposte that as someone who held clearance that I have noticed military R&amp;D&#8217;s dissemination into the public sector is far slower than the same process from the civilian space program.  Carbon-fiber tech comes to mind, but that may not be the best example.</p>
<p>Indeed, you could argue the integrated circuits point, however, the counter-argument would be the Charles Draper-MIT Apollo Guidance Computer development which used the lion&#8217;s share of IC&#8217;s, far above and beyond Minuteman.</p>
<p>Back to your central question &#8212; would it have happened sans Apollo?  Certainly.  </p>
<p>But would it have led to the creation of Intel in 1968, which quickly went to work on mid-scale integration and eventually large-scale integration?  Probably not.  IC&#8217;s would have been kept black because the Soviets were still using vacuum and relay technology, and indeed, badly trailed the US in computational ability.  That would have been an advantage our military would have been loathe to surrender.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s why I posit that Apollo greatly stimulated the PC revolution.  I seriously doubt we would have what we have on our desks, cellphones, televisions and even microwave ovens had that original IC tech been confined to our armed forces.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Paul D. Spudis</title>
		<link>http://blogs.airspacemag.com/moon/2009/01/25/what-apollo-was-and-wasnt/comment-page-1/#comment-226</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr. Paul D. Spudis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 15:16:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Charles,

I don&#039;t disagree that Apollo produced a lot of technical innovation, much of which has produced enormous wealth.  The problem with the spin-off argument is that you can never &lt;b&gt;prove&lt;/b&gt; that a given development wouldn&#039;t have happened anyway in the absence of the Apollo program.  Thus, the spin-off line of reasoning has no power as a &lt;i&gt;convincing&lt;/i&gt; argument in favor of large, government space programs.  I could easily argue that much of the spin-off benefits claimed for Apollo were actually produced by military R&amp;D during the Cold War (e.g., integrated circuit chips).  Of course, such a distinction is meaningless as both were part of the same effort, but that fact lessens its value as an argument for space.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charles,</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t disagree that Apollo produced a lot of technical innovation, much of which has produced enormous wealth.  The problem with the spin-off argument is that you can never <b>prove</b> that a given development wouldn&#8217;t have happened anyway in the absence of the Apollo program.  Thus, the spin-off line of reasoning has no power as a <i>convincing</i> argument in favor of large, government space programs.  I could easily argue that much of the spin-off benefits claimed for Apollo were actually produced by military R&#038;D during the Cold War (e.g., integrated circuit chips).  Of course, such a distinction is meaningless as both were part of the same effort, but that fact lessens its value as an argument for space.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles Boyer</title>
		<link>http://blogs.airspacemag.com/moon/2009/01/25/what-apollo-was-and-wasnt/comment-page-1/#comment-225</link>
		<dc:creator>Charles Boyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 14:49:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One thing that the public -- and all too often supposedly knowledgeable historians -- forget is that the Apollo program yielded incredible spinoff benefits that has harvested profits in the form of taxes collected by the federal, state and local governments across the country.

It was a technological stimulus that has yet to stop giving.  It greatly jump-started the microprocessor revolution, it advanced materials science, it evolved communication, it evolved navigation systems in the form of inertial guidance, it evolved energy science in terms of fuel cell and battery technology and it even evolved medical science to boot.

Sitting in front of your computer, you are using a machine whose internal parts&#039; provenance goes straight through the Apollo program.  Kilby and Noyce may have built the first integrated circuits, but it was Apollo&#039;s need for small electronics packages, along with the Minuteman program, that fueled the first mass-production of them.  At one point Apollo consumed over 60% of the world&#039;s IC supply.  The computer you are using right now has dozens of IC&#039;s, including its CPU.  Knowing that, it&#039;s fair to say that Apollo jump started the development that led to the Personal Computer Revolution and their ubiquity.

As far as energy goes, take a look at how NASA and the space program took the laboratory curiosity of fuel cells and advanced the technology such that it could stand the rigors of spaceflight.  Those very same technologies sit at the heart of modern fuel cells, the ones we hope to power our future Hydrogen Economy.  At the very least, Apollo advanced our knowledge of fuel cells and gave a very good basis for further research.  This, of course, will help shorten our lead time towards energy independence.

Apollo also greatly advanced our knowledge of the moon and its creation -- which of course advanced our knowledge of the history of our own planet.  As one lunar geologist remarked recenty, &quot;seventy-five per cent of what we know about the moon came from the contingency sample Neil Armstrong put in his pocket when he stepped onto the lunar regolith.&quot;

Moreover, it was Apollo samples that proved the presence of Helium-3&#039;s abundance in the lunar regoltih.  This rare material on the Earth holds great promise to power nuclear fusion power plants economically, because it has lower radiation output than does Hydrogen.  That would mean plants would last longer and of course be more cost-efficient.  This discovery is relatively recent, and once again proves that Apollo return samples are gifts to science that keep on giving, decades past their collection.

That is the true legacy of Apollo, and it is one that seems to be almost completely ignored by historians and even NASA.  While it is more than fair to say that Apollo was a Cold War propaganda battle, it is folly to ignore the long-term ramifications of it, and it is also suspect to think that even more ambitious projects wouldn&#039;t yield similar benefits for generations to come.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing that the public &#8212; and all too often supposedly knowledgeable historians &#8212; forget is that the Apollo program yielded incredible spinoff benefits that has harvested profits in the form of taxes collected by the federal, state and local governments across the country.</p>
<p>It was a technological stimulus that has yet to stop giving.  It greatly jump-started the microprocessor revolution, it advanced materials science, it evolved communication, it evolved navigation systems in the form of inertial guidance, it evolved energy science in terms of fuel cell and battery technology and it even evolved medical science to boot.</p>
<p>Sitting in front of your computer, you are using a machine whose internal parts&#8217; provenance goes straight through the Apollo program.  Kilby and Noyce may have built the first integrated circuits, but it was Apollo&#8217;s need for small electronics packages, along with the Minuteman program, that fueled the first mass-production of them.  At one point Apollo consumed over 60% of the world&#8217;s IC supply.  The computer you are using right now has dozens of IC&#8217;s, including its CPU.  Knowing that, it&#8217;s fair to say that Apollo jump started the development that led to the Personal Computer Revolution and their ubiquity.</p>
<p>As far as energy goes, take a look at how NASA and the space program took the laboratory curiosity of fuel cells and advanced the technology such that it could stand the rigors of spaceflight.  Those very same technologies sit at the heart of modern fuel cells, the ones we hope to power our future Hydrogen Economy.  At the very least, Apollo advanced our knowledge of fuel cells and gave a very good basis for further research.  This, of course, will help shorten our lead time towards energy independence.</p>
<p>Apollo also greatly advanced our knowledge of the moon and its creation &#8212; which of course advanced our knowledge of the history of our own planet.  As one lunar geologist remarked recenty, &#8220;seventy-five per cent of what we know about the moon came from the contingency sample Neil Armstrong put in his pocket when he stepped onto the lunar regolith.&#8221;</p>
<p>Moreover, it was Apollo samples that proved the presence of Helium-3&#8217;s abundance in the lunar regoltih.  This rare material on the Earth holds great promise to power nuclear fusion power plants economically, because it has lower radiation output than does Hydrogen.  That would mean plants would last longer and of course be more cost-efficient.  This discovery is relatively recent, and once again proves that Apollo return samples are gifts to science that keep on giving, decades past their collection.</p>
<p>That is the true legacy of Apollo, and it is one that seems to be almost completely ignored by historians and even NASA.  While it is more than fair to say that Apollo was a Cold War propaganda battle, it is folly to ignore the long-term ramifications of it, and it is also suspect to think that even more ambitious projects wouldn&#8217;t yield similar benefits for generations to come.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Carpenter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Carpenter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 19:51:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course Mr. Spudis is right--intellectually. Beating the Soviets to the Moon and back was what drove government policy and the money. But I think you can make the counter argument that below that level, when he talks about the double duty and breaking marriages, as many people or more did it for emotional or visionary reasons as for the &quot;cold war&quot; aspect of it. And that is what drives them today. I can&#039;t back that up other than providing anecdotal thoughts gained from working at NASA for six years.

I don&#039;t think too many voting citizens deal with space travel intellectually. If they deal with it at all, they deal with it emotionally. At some sub-level they may understand the science and engineering gains we have received from space exploration, but at the center of their emotional sweet spot they want somebody to go out there and break through those barriers for them. To do what they dreamed of as kids sitting up watching the moon out of their bedroom window. However, the cost is another reality and one that inescapably brings us back to an intellectual discussion. Because unlike in the 1960s cost matters very much.

So while I don&#039;t disagree with Mr. Spudis, I would rather read and dream along with Mr. O&#039;Brien. It&#039;s just where my right brain leads me. My left brain, while understanding the intellectual reasoning, willingly follows.

Maybe we need to interweave both discussions into one. Could we combine the emotional and mystical with the logical and pragmatic? Maybe when we do that we can energize political leadership to lead us into a new generation of sustainable space exploration. Maybe we can catch an LED light in a bottle (lightning might be asking too much). Maybe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course Mr. Spudis is right&#8211;intellectually. Beating the Soviets to the Moon and back was what drove government policy and the money. But I think you can make the counter argument that below that level, when he talks about the double duty and breaking marriages, as many people or more did it for emotional or visionary reasons as for the &#8220;cold war&#8221; aspect of it. And that is what drives them today. I can&#8217;t back that up other than providing anecdotal thoughts gained from working at NASA for six years.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think too many voting citizens deal with space travel intellectually. If they deal with it at all, they deal with it emotionally. At some sub-level they may understand the science and engineering gains we have received from space exploration, but at the center of their emotional sweet spot they want somebody to go out there and break through those barriers for them. To do what they dreamed of as kids sitting up watching the moon out of their bedroom window. However, the cost is another reality and one that inescapably brings us back to an intellectual discussion. Because unlike in the 1960s cost matters very much.</p>
<p>So while I don&#8217;t disagree with Mr. Spudis, I would rather read and dream along with Mr. O&#8217;Brien. It&#8217;s just where my right brain leads me. My left brain, while understanding the intellectual reasoning, willingly follows.</p>
<p>Maybe we need to interweave both discussions into one. Could we combine the emotional and mystical with the logical and pragmatic? Maybe when we do that we can energize political leadership to lead us into a new generation of sustainable space exploration. Maybe we can catch an LED light in a bottle (lightning might be asking too much). Maybe.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Nottle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Nottle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 11:18:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for this article - you nailed it.

All the U.S. Presidents after Johnson have wanted to give Kennedy&#039;s Man to the Moon speech.  Many of them have tried, touting various programs.  None of them have been willing to pay the true costs to fund their proposals.

NASA plays along with this game.  Senior Agency officials promise Congress relatively cheap, re-usable Space Shuttles, a Space Station, and other programs for a fraction of their true (known) costs.  In their eyes, the ends justify the means.

It&#039;s time for some honesty.  Unless there is a return to the Cold War climate, there will be limited tax dollars available for NASA.  Let&#039;s build a long term space infrastructure and exploration effort based on a realistic budget.  

It&#039;s also time to make some hard choices instead of funding the status quo, which is primarily a high-tech jobs program supported by specific members of Congress with a vested interest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for this article &#8211; you nailed it.</p>
<p>All the U.S. Presidents after Johnson have wanted to give Kennedy&#8217;s Man to the Moon speech.  Many of them have tried, touting various programs.  None of them have been willing to pay the true costs to fund their proposals.</p>
<p>NASA plays along with this game.  Senior Agency officials promise Congress relatively cheap, re-usable Space Shuttles, a Space Station, and other programs for a fraction of their true (known) costs.  In their eyes, the ends justify the means.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s time for some honesty.  Unless there is a return to the Cold War climate, there will be limited tax dollars available for NASA.  Let&#8217;s build a long term space infrastructure and exploration effort based on a realistic budget.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s also time to make some hard choices instead of funding the status quo, which is primarily a high-tech jobs program supported by specific members of Congress with a vested interest.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles Pooley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles Pooley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 21:13:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We should not expect growth in the &quot;collectivist&quot; large scale approach of NASA, but try to stimulate an analog of the microcomputer.  We are in the &quot;mainframe era of space exploration&quot;.  Big in scale, high in cost, and with limited participation.  

A &#039;microlauncvher&#039; system for flying thousands of very tiny spacecraft amoung the NEOs is now possible and should stimulate and excite many as the Altair 8800 did in mid-70&#039;s.

There&#039;s a website and Youtube video explaining this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We should not expect growth in the &#8220;collectivist&#8221; large scale approach of NASA, but try to stimulate an analog of the microcomputer.  We are in the &#8220;mainframe era of space exploration&#8221;.  Big in scale, high in cost, and with limited participation.  </p>
<p>A &#8216;microlauncvher&#8217; system for flying thousands of very tiny spacecraft amoung the NEOs is now possible and should stimulate and excite many as the Altair 8800 did in mid-70&#8217;s.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a website and Youtube video explaining this.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Horning</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Horning</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 17:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are two issues that need to be addressed if you are talking about &quot;drumming up more support for space&quot; from citizen&#039;s enthusiasm for more government programs:

#1) Most ordinary tax payers think we are still paying the 10% of the federal budget (give or take a little bit) for NASA.  I&#039;m talking Baby Boomers here and older senior citizens, not the younger folks... but keep in mind these are the folks that actually vote, run for office, and chair all of the committees from local precinct-level parties to the congressional science committees that directly fund appropriations.  When you point out that the amount of the Federal Budget for NASA is about 5% of what they think it is, they literally drop their jaw and wonder what happened.  I guess the rest of us ask that same question too.

#2) There is more than one &quot;space agency&quot; in the U.S. Government.  Indeed, NASA isn&#039;t even the largest in terms of budget or personnel.  Other space agencies of the U.S. Federal Government include the NRO (National Reconnaissance Office), FAA-AST (Office of Commercial Space Transportation), and even NOAA&#039;s Space Weather Prediction Center.  I&#039;m sure a full review of the federal government would indicate a few more... and I wouldn&#039;t put it past all of these group to eventually have professional astronauts in one capacity or another.  The predecessor of the NRO did in fact have professional astronauts with the &quot;Manned Orbiting Laboratory&quot; project that were eventually transferred to NASA. 

Of the various &quot;space agencies&quot;, the one I wouldn&#039;t mind seeing expand a little bit and certainly take on a mission of being an advocate for space development is the FAA-AST.  This at least would be the &quot;best bang for the buck&quot; in terms of what would encourage further development and infrastructure for the development of space.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are two issues that need to be addressed if you are talking about &#8220;drumming up more support for space&#8221; from citizen&#8217;s enthusiasm for more government programs:</p>
<p>#1) Most ordinary tax payers think we are still paying the 10% of the federal budget (give or take a little bit) for NASA.  I&#8217;m talking Baby Boomers here and older senior citizens, not the younger folks&#8230; but keep in mind these are the folks that actually vote, run for office, and chair all of the committees from local precinct-level parties to the congressional science committees that directly fund appropriations.  When you point out that the amount of the Federal Budget for NASA is about 5% of what they think it is, they literally drop their jaw and wonder what happened.  I guess the rest of us ask that same question too.</p>
<p>#2) There is more than one &#8220;space agency&#8221; in the U.S. Government.  Indeed, NASA isn&#8217;t even the largest in terms of budget or personnel.  Other space agencies of the U.S. Federal Government include the NRO (National Reconnaissance Office), FAA-AST (Office of Commercial Space Transportation), and even NOAA&#8217;s Space Weather Prediction Center.  I&#8217;m sure a full review of the federal government would indicate a few more&#8230; and I wouldn&#8217;t put it past all of these group to eventually have professional astronauts in one capacity or another.  The predecessor of the NRO did in fact have professional astronauts with the &#8220;Manned Orbiting Laboratory&#8221; project that were eventually transferred to NASA. </p>
<p>Of the various &#8220;space agencies&#8221;, the one I wouldn&#8217;t mind seeing expand a little bit and certainly take on a mission of being an advocate for space development is the FAA-AST.  This at least would be the &#8220;best bang for the buck&#8221; in terms of what would encourage further development and infrastructure for the development of space.</p>
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